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Crew Card Less mules = cards reclassification

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  1. Faby

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    Hello Crime Coast Community!

    After a long and exausting convo on Discord about cards, mule, cards, mule, cards and mule...
    I decided to create this thread.

    Mules got harder to get. Thats a fact.
    A fact that forces players to have to forge almost all the cards they need instead of trading them.
    And thats the problem of the game now, without mules: the card system definitely doesnt help players to forge what they need.

    With that in mind... and with the idea that mules might never be back to what they were before, I would like that us, as a community of players, to suggest to Pixel a unified suggestion to reclassify cards (including the extintion of some of them) in order to make our efforts to forge less tiring (and less annoying too).

    This thread have two fields:

    CARDS TO BE EXCLUDED
    - 1h party
    - 1.000 cash
    - 1.000 bad blue
    - 5 minutes speed up
    - 10 minutes speed up
    - 1 Gold
    - 2 Gold
    - 5 Gold
    - Prison Overcrowd 1
    - Single Cloak
    - Corrupt Cashier 1
    - Overload 1
    - 37M Accelerator 1
    - Defense Accelerator 1

    CARDS TO BE RECLASSIFIED[
    - Fortify 6 (from Epic to Super Rare)
    - AP 1 (from Epic to Super Rare)
    - AP 2 (from Legendary to Epic)
    - 7D Protection (from Epic to Super Rare)
    - 10.000 Cash (from Rare to Common)
    - Prison Overcrowd 2 (from Rare to Common)
    - Corrupt Cashier 2 (from Super Rare to Common)
    - Corrupt Cashier 3 (from Epic to Rare)
    - Overload 2 (from Epic to Super Rare)
    - 37M Accelerator 2 (from Epic to Super Rare)
    - Defense Accelerator 2 (from Epic to Super Rare)

    Mules being more rare than an unicorn changed our way to play the game. It got many players mad. But... it also opens a possibility to us to fight for a better card system and better conditions to forge what we need.

    Please comment your suggestions of cards that must be excluded and what cards that must be reclassified.

    Reclassification means: changing the category (common, rare, super rare, epic, legendary, notorious).

    And finally, please... keep the "bring mules back" out of this discussion.
    This threat is to fight for an alternative inside a world where mules are gonna be unicorns and we will have to live with them.

    Im gonna send our lists to pixel, in the name of our community, in the end of this month (Sep, 30th)

    Regards,

    Faby
     
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    Después de la larga y agotadora conversación en Discord con respecto a las cartas, mulas, cartas, mulas, cartas y mulas...

    Decidí crear este hilo.


    Las mulas se han vuelto más difíciles de obtener. Eso es un hecho.

    Un hecho que obliga a los jugadores a tener que forjar casi todas las cartas que necesitan en lugar de intercambiarlas.

    Y ese es el problema del juego ahora, sin mulas: el sistema de cartas definitivamente no ayuda a los jugadores a forjar lo que necesitan.


    Con eso en mente... y con la idea de que las mulas nunca volverían a lo que eran antes, me gustaría que nosotros, como comunidad de jugadores, sugieramos a Pixel una sugerencia unificada para reclasificar las cartas (incluida la extinción de algunas de ellas) con el fin de hacer nuestros esfuerzos para forjar menos agotadores ( y menos molestias también).


    Este subproceso tiene dos campos:


    Spoiler: TARJETAS QUE DEBEN SER EXCLUIDAS


    Spoiler: TARJETAS QUE DEBEN SER RECLASIFICADAS


    Las Mulas siendo más raro que un unicornio cambió nuestra forma de jugar el juego. Enloqueció a muchos jugadores. Pero... también abre la posibilidad de luchar por un mejor sistema de cartas y mejores condiciones para forjar lo que necesitamos.


    Por favor, comente sus sugerencias de tarjetas que deben ser excluidas y qué tarjetas deben ser reclasificadas.


    Reclasificación significa: cambiar la categoría (común, raro, súper raro, épico, legendario, notorio).


    Y por último, por favor... mantengan los Gritos de "traer las Mulas de vuelta" fuera de esta discusión.

    Este hilo es para luchar por una alternativa dentro de un mundo donde las mulas van a ser como unicornios y tendremos que vivir con Ellos .


    Voy a enviar nuestras listas a pixel, en nombre de nuestra comunidad, a finales de este mes (Septiembre, 30)


    Gracias y saludos,


    Faby
     
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    Hola, estamos en un proceso de muchos cambios juntos en el juego QUISAS ALGUNAS COSAS ESTEN BIEN Y OTRAS NO TAN BIEN.
    EJEMPLO teniamos ya desventaja con las TARJETAS SUPERIORES, ya que la cual da muchas cosas de valor MALO y REPETITIVA, GASTADO MAS DE 20,000 de oro y siempre me salieron cosas de VALORES MALOS Y REPETIDAS, y si ahora sumamos este CAMBIO TAN REPENTINO DE QUITAR LAS MULAS ya es muy malo para todos, EL JUEGO SI TIENE LA OPCIÓN DE INTERCAMBIAR CARTAS, no se entiende el ¿porque? Quitaron la CARTA DE 10 de barras, poner mula en superiores, eso es una locura, UN JUGADOR QUE NO COMPRE ORO ESPERARIA 1 MES PARA OBTENER EL SUPEPERIO Y con MUCHISIMA SUERTE QUE TE TOQUE MULA, es algo muy MALO para los jugadores esto.

    Se deberia de buscar un nuevo mecanismo para el retorno de la MULA es una de las CARTAS MAS USADA por todos ya que con ella se consiguen cosas que muchos no podemos FORJAR.

    Si PIXEL quiso que esto sea asi ok, entonces YO DOY UNA SUGERENCIA, que cambie LA CARTA MULA DE LA TARJETA SUPERIOR Y LA COLOQUE EN LA TARJETA DE GANSTER, Asi tendriamos todos MAS oportunidad de que toque y no estar esperando 1 mes en vano.

    Tengo cartas muy buenas en mi inventario, y no consigo que me salga ALGO LEGENDARIO EN SUPERIORES, es muy raro pero no me enoja, sigo jugando y ganando oro para volver a comprar SUPERIORES.

    Solo pido que tengas encuenta a los juadores que no podemos comprar oro y al quitarnos asi las MULAS, nos quitasta la manera de obtener quisas algo que jamas podriamos forjar.

    Agradesco este hilo y espero encuentre una solucion que nos favoresca a todos.

    Mucha gracias

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    Hello, we are in a process of many changes together in the game. YOU WANT SOME THINGS ARE OK AND OTHERS ARE NOT GOOD.
    EXAMPLE we already had a disadvantage with the SUPERIOR CARDS, since it gives many things of BAD and REPETITIVE value, EXPANDED MORE than 20,000 gold and I always got things of BAD AND REPEATED VALUES, and if now we add this CHANGE SO REPENTINE TO REMOVE THE MULES is already very bad for everyone, THE GAME IF YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO EXCHANGE LETTERS, you don't understand why? They removed the LETTER of 10 bars, put mule in superiors, that is crazy, A PLAYER WHO DOES NOT BUY WAITING GOLD 1 MONTH TO GET THE SUPEPERIO AND with MANY LUCK THAT YOU GET A MULE, it is something very BAD for the players this.

    It should look for a new mechanism for the return of the MULA is one of the MOST USED LETTERS for all since with it you get things that many can not FORGE.

    If PIXEL wanted this to be so ok, then I GIVE A SUGGESTION, to change THE MULE LETTER OF THE UPPER CARD AND PLACE IT IN THE GANSTER CARD, so we would all have MORE chance of playing and not waiting for 1 month in vain.

    I have very good cards in my inventory, and I do not get something LEGENDARY IN SUPERIOR, it is very rare but it does not make me angry, I keep playing and earning gold to buy SUPERIORS again.

    I only ask that you keep in mind the gamblers that we cannot buy gold and by removing our MULES, you take away the way to obtain something you would never forge.

    I appreciate this thread and hope to find a solution that favors us all.

    Thanks a lot
     
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    La verdad el sistema de cartas ya tiene mucho tiempo que es pésimo y lo rescataba un poco el poder intercambiar cartas con otros jugadores. Era una parte esencial en el juego y era divertido negociar con los demás para poder fraguar cartas de mayor nível, al quitar las mulas no solo nos quitaron la posibilidad de conseguir algo mejor también las ganas de comprar oro para comprar más superiores. Si siempre me salen fortas 6 o alarmas 1 y cartas repetidas que ya no me ayudan en nada pues no tiene caso invertir mi dinero en el juego. Creo que deberían de volver al sistema original tanto de las cartas que dan como el del uso de las mulas.

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    The truth is that the card system has been very bad for a long time and it was a little rescued to be able to exchange cards with other players. It was an essential part of the game and it was fun to negotiate with others to be able to forge cards of greater level, by removing the mules they not only took away the possibility of getting something better also the desire to buy gold to buy more superiors. If I always get forts 6 or alarms 1 and repeated letters that no longer help me at all because there is no point in investing my money in the game. I think they should return to the original system of both the cards they give and the use of the mules.
     
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    The rarity of mule have to change to ' LEGENDARY '

    The rarity of air patrol 1 have to change to ' SUPER RARE ' as it commonly shows up in superiors,but still hard to forge it.



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    Regarding cards reclassification, lots of discussion were made on another thread.

    Please, staff take feedback from both threads ( old one and this new one )
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    CARD RECLASSIFICATION
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    Make Squats 10 , Forts 12 ,Air Patrol 6 Alarm 6 Super Rare And Mule Notorious.
    Thnx
     
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    Remove 10k & 100k cash from super rare.
     
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    1hr party, 1k cash becomes "almost" useless when high level mansion is achieved, so might be good if at least these 2 cards are removed for mansion level 6+ This might increase the probability of popping out of cards like OC1 and 5 n 15 minute speed up which have kind of gone rare at the current time :joy:
     
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    1k cash and 1hr party is very important its forge few cards that used to forge cloak cards =bad blue which is important mostly for high lv mansion players.many useles cards still exists like 10k cash,single cloak which is not usefull and its rare Lol when we can cloak with common 1 gold card so like this many useless cards pop up so not really chance for Oc 1,15m,5m ,better remove these first

    And if not mule, then maybe a amount of gold maybe players need to send a card like 100 gold for send a card option like this imo
     
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    As stated there, the cashier card can be removed completely (my most hated card lol :mad:) I really don't understand the classification of the cards, probably because some are not in the right class, but I know I hate using 500 gold and receive a cashier any level. I haven't seen a Super Rare in Thug since the card system was originally added. Along with re-classifying cards I think the crew category in which these cards are available needs to be adjusted.
    Thug Crew should have common and rare cards
    Gangster Crew should have Super Rare and Epic
    Superior Crew should have Legendary and Notorious

    Yes!! The cloak card should be removed, it has no value, can't sell it, its not used in any forge that I know of. I have 93 just sitting in inventory.
     
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    Hope one day will be like 2 years ago.
    And again have chance to get a good epic card when we buy a loot of thung cards!
    And sure its name superior card and cost 500 gold shuld give us just Legendary and habe unless 10% change to get a nottorious card:)
    CHEERS to all have a great week and happy raids :p
     
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    Then we try again this year.

    Thanks but I will not consider the suggestions given 2 years ago.

    Since Aug 2017 a lot of things changed in the game, new cards appeared, even recipes were changed.
    So, lets start a new fresh discussion about it, based on the current reality of cards on CC.

    10k and 100k cash arent super rare. they are rare

    About the forging recipes, the idea is to adapt the forging recipes using the next lvl card of the card who got removed. Example: if u take a 1.000 cash out, the next card available is 10.000 cash. Like happened with the 10.000 BB. The recipes that used this card now needs 50.000 BB.

    Thanks for your suggestion.
    But the changes you suggested have 0 chance of happening lol.
    I think we should keep the ideas in a "its possible" range.
    Its the only way to be taken seriously by Pixel.

    And finally... lol
    I updated the two lists with the suggestions given until now, added some of mine too.

    And for those who suggested anything related to "bring back the mule", i thank you for the suggestion, but like I said in the first post of this thread... the idea is to think in a solution of a game where mules are gonna be really really rare. Cos that might be the reality we are gonna have to deal with.

    Faby
     
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    Hmm maybe they should just give us an option to trade cards in game or an option that would allow us to display our cards for sale kinda like a sales desk where we can fix a specific amount of bb or cash or gold for a specific card that we wanna sell this would be a lot more beneficial cause players couldn't really be scammed by this unless they foolishly sell their notorious cards for 1k cash {their fault } so no scamming in this way of trade players can directly get the bb or cash in this way for case of card trading let the mules be as it is with the option to forge with 50k bb now players at lower mansion levels would hesitate about forging mule then so not many scammers and 50 k aint all that common ,about the reclassification make the squats a little less rare I mean squat 3 legendary ? Come on? That's about it
     
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    I see that the 5 min speedup card is in the "remove" list. Just wanted to point out that it is required in several forges.
     
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    [QUOTE = "Prince Eric, post: 57414, member: 688"] I see that the 5 min speedup card is in the "remove" list. Just wanted to point out that it is required in several forges. [/ QUOTE]
    That can solved by changing the forge recipe.
     
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    The squats need to be re clasified along with some other cards like the airpatrol and pls do remove things like overtime cause really that's a card no one really wants it's just there to lower our chances of getting other good cards and some cards are seriously insane when people are hard pressed for just a dj10 or something they have like DJ12 just the case with the airpatrols ,app ,masamune ,seriously make those numbers and rarity less insane there have been players playing for real long without just getting their hands on some of these cards just because of how hard it is to get them unless that is we have a ton of ghosts or if we are ready to spend a fortune ,pls forgive me for ranting and consider the re clasification along with the idea for sales desk cause it would help a lot of players getting cards they can't hope to get normally
     
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    Don't even get me started about forge recipes.
    Some of them are just ignorant. Ex., In some forges why does it require 2 epic cards to forge a super rare?

    But...to answer your reply there are at least 15 forges that require the 5 minute speedup card. If it was only a couple I would say "go ahead and change the recipe" but because there are so many I feel that could turn into a big mess.
     
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